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Black hole eating us! Prof. Rössler has solution. The Moon LHC. - Robert Aymar, Director of CERN:'Not interested!"
On the http://www.lhcconcerns.com board, some posts are indicating that scientists like Dr. Prof. Otto E. Rössler, who has written 10 books (just check at Amazon) and over 500 publications on multiple subjects is being ridiculized in here. He is for real. He is available and he does not hide himself ( http://www.uni-tuebingen.de/Chemie/Chemie/PC/Profs/roessler.html ). Some forum members here seem to suggest that people like him are 'crackpots'!
Video PM-Dr. Prof. Otto E. Rössler:
Dr. Prof. Otto E. Rössler currently works at the University of Tuebingen in Germany. He specializes on theoretical biology, theoretical physics, mathematic, philosophy and nature sciences. These areas is what he is talking about. AND he has a right to do so and to be listened too. As a 'chaos scientist' my understanding is that because interdisciplinary know-how is required, his expertise field is quite wide. He also strikes me as a scientist who needs to see the large picture. And yes, he would be allowed in court on the LHC subject. Heard somebody in a post say they would not allow him in court because he is not a subject matter expert. This is complete rubbish and the person who posted this knows it.
Prof. Otto E. Rössler sais that there is a 50% chance that a real black hole gets created at the LHC, that there are then 50 months left for our Earth. But he also offers solutions. He sais, do it now, but do it on the moon. Prof. Otto E. Rössler sais he has calculated the cost for running the LHC on the moon and they are only 2-3 times higher than here on Earth. Proving his great humor, Prof. Otto E. Rössler continues to say that then we could watch the moon getting eaten up by the black hole. At least then we would get a bit more time, right?
Now if the CERN is really concerned about all our safety and does everything possible to guarantee it like they constantly tell us, why is the proposed solution from Prof. Otto E. Rössler not even taking into consideration by the CERN?
Has Prof. Otto E. Rössler every been approached by the CERN to talk about the solution to re-create the LHC on the moon - and remove this one here, right in my city, right next to me?
The most amazing thing is that Dr. Prof. Otto E. Rössler believes that creating the LHC on the moon would only cost 2-3 times as much. He may have reasons to explain why his calculations - which he is adamant are exact - show such a low cost.
But if this is true, and works, we cannot underestimate the current achievement of Dr. Prof. Otto E. Rössler. He may well get a Nobel Prize for this. If not, and the cost is lets say 50 times higher - would you still not do it to save our Universe? Of course you would ;-) If it can't be done because Dr. Prof. Otto E. Rössler is wrong - well, let's at LEAST try it! What is the price to reduce risk here?
Additionally, if the LHC has to be redone on the moon, this would extremely beneficial for World economy. It would completely remove the current recession crisis I believe. There would be a massive government and private sector investment and benefit in this.
Here the link to the interview with Golem:
http://www.golem.de/0802/57477.html
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05/08/08. 11:30:00 am. 590 words, 802 views. Categories: L Professor Dr. Otto E. Rossler , 4 comments »
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http://www.timetravelinstitute.com/ttiforum/showthreaded.php?Cat=&Board=time_travel&Number=54836&page=0&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=&vc=1
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This is quite hilarious, and easily debunked. The cost to transfer all the LHC equipment to orbit (much less to the surface of the moon) is the primary "delta cost difference" from the current LHC here on good old earth. Figure 1 in the paper at the following URL shows trends for what it costs to launch a payload just into a Geo Synchronous Orbit (GSO):
http://www.futron.com/pdf/resource_center/white_papers/FutronLaunchCostWP.pdf
For argument's sake, let's say the trend extends to today and the cost per pound to GSO is about $10,000 per pound. Now typically, the cost to go beyond earth and actually land on another planet is MORE than double the cost to GSO... but let's give the "Dr. Prof." the benefit of the doubt... so $20,000/pound to get LHC equipment to the moon.
How much does all the LHC equipment weigh???? Do the math. There is no WAY it is only 2-3x the cost to do it here. If it was we would only be spending a couple hundred dollars every time we launched a Space Shuttle!
RMT
Recursion. Closed-loops. Orobouros. -
If his criticism is wrong, calculations and arguments should follow from CERN to prove he is wrong. Not just talk.
Any uncertainty in this experiment should command a delay until calculations and arguments show Roessler is wrong and we have nothing to fear.
CERN's attitude seems to be the usual arrogance of the scientist who thinks he or she is overseeing all and everything.
Uncertainty has to be reduced by argument and calculation, not by rhetorics.
Since this experiment is on the edge of argument, theory and calculation this controversy will probably not be settled
by argument but by execution of the actual experiments.
In this way these experiments amount to a mere gamble by scientists.
We do not need to give science this space to expose our spacecraft Earth to such an immense risk.
So, I do protest against these experiments like prof. Roessler is doing.
Please stop until you have proven to be safe and secure in this last environmental impact Earth cannot survive in seconds.
Please do recognize the limits to your knowledge,
Please do understand you may be wrong,
Please do realize, any scientist can be wrong as has been proven in the past.
Jan
I mean I think science has giving us a lot of power, knowledge, and made us develope a high speed of influence over the world around us in many ways that would have been imposible without science and technology, but all this power and knowledge is control by a few people, so the focus of all this technology is always focus on making money with it, so I think that progress and technology are corrupted and slow just to make money.
I hope to see one day the technology of this world, concentrating into the earths resources as a priority, because if all this time that we as humans have invested in to nuclear power and things like that, we would have use all that time and technology to develop top of the line technology to harvest the energy we use, from every renewable energy around the world.
If the goal of technology for the last 30 years had been only to harvest renewable energy from our planet, we would not be using oil at all by now.
So I understand if they want to find out how the universe works, by creating the same conditions as when the big bang, but if they are fucking around with black holes, and they are not sure if something goes wrong and if they do make a black hole that will hang on for seconds then what? if they can't be sure the experiment is completly safe of that kind of risk, then who gave them the right to fuck with everybodys lifes that way, this kind of experiment should be voted on by all the nations of the world one by one, before they can do it.
I mean I think science has giving us a lot of power, knowledge, and made us develope a high speed of influence over the world around us in many ways that would have been imposible without science and technology, but all this power and knowledge is control by a few people, so the focus of all this technology is always focus on making money with it, so I think that progress and technology are corrupted and slow just to make money.
I hope to see one day the technology of this world, concentrating into the earths resources as a priority, because if all this time that we as humans have invested in to nuclear power and things like that, we would have use all that time and technology to develop top of the line technology to harvest the energy we use, from every renewable energy around the world.
If the goal of technology for the last 30 years had been only to harvest renewable energy from our planet, we would not be using oil at all by now.
So I understand if they want to find out how the universe works, by creating the same conditions as when the big bang, but if they are fucking around with black holes, and they are not sure if something goes wrong and if they do make a black hole that will hang on for seconds then what? if they can't be sure the experiment is completly safe of that kind of risk, then who gave them the right to fuck with everybodys lifes that way, this kind of experiment should be voted on by all the nations of the world one by one, before they can do it.
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